>Their data estimates that taxes make up 42.5% of the cost of a pack of cigarettes in the US, compared to 82.2% in the United Kingdom, which has the highest cigarette taxes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_taxes_in_the_United_...
See https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/22/alcohol-...
Admission: I never got the chance to look at the research so I don’t know how reliable it is.
It seems to be that the obese and smokers do cost a lot more on the healthcare system - however they also die earlier, and so the net cost ends up being less.
> Nevertheless, these findings suggest that although effective obesity prevention reduces the costs of obesity-related diseases, this reduction is offset by the increased costs of diseases unrelated to obesity that occur during the extra years of life gained by slimming down.
However, it doesn't seem like government funding into prevention or research were also tallied into the costs of the illnesses, which are not inconsiderable.
[0] http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jou...
Yes... if everyone died, including the smokers, governments would effectively cut healthcare costs to 0. Thats not how public health systems work though.
I would not say debunked
It might be true that it tobacco reduces the overall health care burden because it causes people to die earlier, but it's not relevant. Setting your car on fire might also have the side-effect of lowering the operating cost of that car.
However, one could argue that even countries such as the U.S., which have a private healthcare system are negatively impacted by harmful industries like these, because the citizens pay for healthcare when they could be paying for something else. But the effect is not as direct, and it may not be as big either, as the government can still profit from taxes in the private healthcare industry and so on.
That's without calculating asthma, missed days of work, productivity loss due to feeling sick etc etc.
Now in third world countries cigarettes might actually save money, maybe. It kills quite a few before getting pensions, and healthcare is limited so you have to accept that your days are over.
Smoking costs the NHS £2Bn/year while tobacco raises £12Bn/year in taxes, and smokers are less of a pension liability too.
Noone wants to talk about what happens when smoking is eradicated and a huge chunk of tax just vanishes overnight...
https://fullfact.org/economy/does-smoking-cost-much-it-makes...
If you ask the tobacco industry. They have a lousy track record, so you can understand people who don't believe them.
Also, note this is a dubious claim in the UK with a > 80% tax rate, it's even shakier in countries with a lower tax rate.
I don't follow how governments lose money in the long. Could you elaborate?
"Smoking-related illness in the United States costs more than $300 billion each year. Nearly $170 billion for direct medical care for adults More than $156 billion in lost productivity, including $5.6 billion in lost productivity due to secondhand smoke exposure"
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/econ...
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A major way (the only way?) to curb tobacco usage is to simply increase taxes on tobacco usage, but politicians/bureaucracy prefers the short-term tobacco tax revenue.
Cool article about Chinese tobacco tax rev: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-12/the-chine...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572446/Budget-2016-...