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0 pointsarthur_pryor8y ago0 comments

> I observe this in myself: my favorite language to code in is Groovy - a dynamic, scripting language with all kinds of fancy tricks. But my favorite language to decode is Java. Because it is so simple, boring, there is almost nothing clever it can do. Every type declared, exception thrown, etc. is completely visible in front of me.

one of my favorite things about groovy is that it's easy to start strongly typing things as your code shapes up, because it allows for totally dynamic types, but it also allows for strong static typing. haven't really had the chance to use groovy since 2012, though.

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vorg8y ago

Static typing was grafted onto Apache Groovy in 2012, but no-one really uses it. I'm not sure about its reliability -- its use never took off on the Android platform, and none of the Groovy codebase itself has ever been rewritten in static Groovy.

Groovy's still great for scripting on the JVM though, for stuff like those 10-liner build scripts for Gradle, glue code, and mock testing. Just don't use Groovy for building systems -- use a language based on static typing from the ground up, like Java, Scala, or Kotlin.

zmmmmm8y ago

> Static typing ... no-one really uses it. I'm not sure about its reliability -- its use never took off on the Android platform, and none of the Groovy codebase itself has ever been rewritten in static Groovy

You keep saying this repeatedly but it just isn't true:

https://github.com/grails/grails-core/blob/master/grails-cor...

https://github.com/groovy/groovy-core/blob/master/src/main/g...

vorg8y ago

Both your examples use very simple logic. The Apache Groovy codebase example is of some peripheral functionality, i.e. a builder. All the methods in your Grails codebase example are, at most, 1 line long. I can't be bothered re-investigating what proportion of the core Groovy codebase really uses static compilation -- it certainly wasn't much only 2 years ago. As for Grails, virtually no-one has upgraded from v.2 to Grails 3 since it was released 2.5 yrs ago, or started many new projects with it.

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zmmmmm8y ago

You keep saying this repeatedly but it just isn't true:

https://github.com/grails/grails-core/blob/master/grails-cor...

https://github.com/groovy/groovy-core/blob/master/src/main/g...

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