Oracle: “Opening Up Java EE”

karianna8y ago· 3 in thread

I sit on the standards body for Java EE which will be involved in helping make this step - would love to hear opinions on what foundation and licensing they'd like to see this under (and why).

Some Java EE specs are already at Eclipse (long standing historical reasons), so there is a small precedent

needusername8y ago

Anything open source, non-GPL is fine. It's important to have the TCKs open source too. We can't continue with this circus that Tomcat and Payara do not get a TCK and can't call themselves JavaEE compliant.

henk538y ago

I'd have a small preference for Eclipse, mainly because some specs are already there (like EclipseLink).

Apache already has their own implementation of much of Java EE (via the Geronimo project, TomEE and Tomcat, among others).

In my opinion it would be slightly confusing to have say 2 JSF implementations at Apache (Myfaces and Mojarra). Not really terrible, but my gut feeling says Eclipse would be a better home.

NuDinNou8y ago

foundation: Apache

licensing: MIT

henk538y ago

This has the ability to have a huge impact on the industry, depending on how the transition goes and under which processes things are being governed.

Java EE is somewhat different from .NET in that it involves multiple vendors cooperating.

spyhiOP8y ago

True to their tradition, the legal disclaimer on the announcement is about half as long as the announcement itself!

needusername8y ago

It's important to note that Oracle can't do this on their own. The IP of the specs is with the spec lead so every spec lead has to agree to a transfer of their IP.

john-waterwood8y ago

Exciting news, can be a game changer against .NET Core being MIT licensed...

he00018y ago

Good move Oracle! Don't f*k this up now!

didibus8y ago

Can someone explain to me Java EE?

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