Ask HN: What non PHP framework resembles the structure/deployment of Laravel/Yii

2 pointssteven_braham8y ago6 comments

PHP has been my main language for years, but I want to learn other languages to create web apps. The thing I like the most of PHP is how easy it is to deploy and develop an application. When deploying your app, you only have to update the files with a file transfer or a deployment script, because a PHP interpreter is always running.

Furthermore, all PHP frameworks like Yii, Laravel and CodeIgniter follow the same conventions for structuring a project.

I've tried to learn Django and like the syntax. However, I don't like the idea that a project contains multiple apps. I prefer to have large applications that do multiple things. Also, the whole template/view part is a bit confusing for me.

I'm curious what other platforms/languages are the most similar to the structure and deployment of Yii and Laravel projects.

The Java play framework seems like an interesting option.

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mtmail8y ago

Ruby on Rails. You'll immediately notice an 'app' directory. Resources are in app/assets, controllers in app/controllers, models in app/models and views in app/views. There's a routes.rb file and a command line interface ('rake routes' does the same as 'php artisan routes:list', 'rake db:migrate' is the same as 'php artisan migrate').

While you can deploy Rails by just copying files (it will reload classes and recompile assets on page refresh whenever possible) it's still a best practice to have the dev and production environment different.

steven_brahamOP8y ago

Damm RoR is nearly Laravel with a different syntax. Development and deployment is also very easy. I was always wary of RoR, because I read online that it's so good at simplifying and abstracting stuff, it can become a black box that is hard to debug.

However, apart from that, this is exactly what I sought. Thank you for making me reconsider Ruby :)

rubyfan8y ago

steven_brahamOP8y ago

I saw that thread before, but nothing really appealed to me.

rubyfan8y ago

Same, except Laravel was new to me in that thread. Looks pretty similar to what you get with Rails but for PHP.

Given the criteria I laid out in that post it looks viable. I’m honestly surprised since I left PHP for Ruby about 12-13 years ago. I think Cake was the wannabe at that point which must have been PHP 4 or 5. There was much I disliked then but Laravel seems better.

So I’ll pose the question, does Laravel have a compelling feature which you think makes it better than Rails or do you think they’re about even?

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Ask HN: What non PHP framework resembles the structure/deployment of Laravel/Yii

2 pointssteven_braham8y ago6 comments

Furthermore, all PHP frameworks like Yii, Laravel and CodeIgniter follow the same conventions for structuring a project.

I'm curious what other platforms/languages are the most similar to the structure and deployment of Yii and Laravel projects.

The Java play framework seems like an interesting option.

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mtmail8y ago

steven_brahamOP8y ago

However, apart from that, this is exactly what I sought. Thank you for making me reconsider Ruby :)

rubyfan8y ago

steven_brahamOP8y ago

I saw that thread before, but nothing really appealed to me.

rubyfan8y ago

Same, except Laravel was new to me in that thread. Looks pretty similar to what you get with Rails but for PHP.

So I’ll pose the question, does Laravel have a compelling feature which you think makes it better than Rails or do you think they’re about even?

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