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0 pointsmdekkers8y ago0 comments

People are building these solutions: PulseAudio, systemd, NetworkManager, libuv, Xorg, SELinux, OpenSSH because they are forced to do so.

How old are you? OpenSSH wasn't built because there was something wrong with Linux per-se, in fact it came out of BSD due to a licensing issue with SSH. SSH was a replacement for the rlogin/telnet type toolsuites due to them being ridiculously insecure. Nothing to do with Linux.

Xorg was released, again as mostly a licensing issue (although some architectural improvements) based on XFree86, which was first released in 1991, with UNIX type systems in mind. This fully working windowing system was released around the same time Linus released the first fledgling version of his kernel. XFree86 was an implementation of X, which was around way before Linux was around.

> The real problem is Linux

I lack the words or intellect to refute such a well-founded and self-evident statement.

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Chyzwar8y ago· 2 in thread

OpenSSH was ported from BSB because there was no alternative in Linux. If not for GNU available for Linus, we would have now flame wars Red Hat vs Canonical coreutils.

X was fine 20 years ago as a prototype. In the meantime, we could have Linux Foundation to create a modern alternative. Instead, we have two competing solutions MIR and Wayland that still do not work very well.

The reason we have such clusterfuck of incompatible distributions is that Linux is one man show. Instead of bringing industry toghether, Linus is doing his own thing. In meantime distributions instead trying to create useful userspace software are repackaging, porting and competing on init systems.... Next pointless war on the horizon snap vs flatpak.

mdekkersOP8y ago

pretty much all your assertions are factually incorrect, and show a significant immaturity on your part regarding your work experience in this ecosystem. This might help: http://www.google.com

OpenSSH was ported from BSB because there was no alternative in Linux

The original version of SSH was available for Linux, before OSSH or OpenSSH where developed.

X was fine 20 years ago as a prototype

Chortle. X stopped being a prototype around 1985/1986 and has powered more systems then I bet you had hot meals and changes of underwear.

The reason we have such clusterfuck of incompatible distributions is that Linux is one man show. Instead of bringing industry toghether, Linus is doing his own thing

Now you are just trolling.

Chyzwar8y ago

SSH Orginal version became proprietary and was forked by BSD developers. Later portable version was created for Linux and other operating systems. You have now situation critical protocol and implementation is maintained by OpenBSD Foundation.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell#History_and_devel...

X was not intended for the desktop. It was used as a prototype because there was nothing better. We are stuck with an ancient client-server architecture that cannot properly display video playback inside the browser.

I respect your opinion, but you just ignore anything in your holy temple of Linux.

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