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0 pointsbriceb8e8y ago0 comments

Wait, if everything is inflated, then really, everything is actually in balance? But ok, so if most things are inflated, then what has proper value or is under valuated?

Subject being blockchain, I'm pretty sure Ethereum, Augur & MakerDAO are ones of those few rare under-valuated assets. Disclosure: I might own a few coins of each.

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pyvpx8y ago· 4 in thread

ethereum is undervalued @ over $200 a token because...what?

this is tulip mania. at least when a stock price shoots up over news, that company is (generally) backed by revenue. a sales channel. assets. something. anything.

a cryptographic signature is only worth something if a group of people all agree it is worth something.

before someone makes the fiat argument -- the USD is worth something because there are a lot of bullets and bombs behind it.

Simon_says8y ago

The correct analogue of cryptocurrency is not USD (because of the bullets and bombs you mention), but rather precious metals, particularly gold and silver. Yes, the metals do have practical applications, but that does not account for the majority of their price (value?).

CraigRood8y ago

You're gonna have a bad time if you are comparing cryptocurrency to metals. There are dozens of currencies that are widely used at the moment, and I'm willing to bet over the next 2-4 years we will get into the hundreds. Your cryptocurrency isn't valued because its rare, it's because everyone else is buying into the same coin. It only takes one new currency to come in and be better than YOURS to reduce its demand and subsequent value - no matter how rare your coins are. It's a stock market not a gold coin collection.

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zeusk8y ago

USD was last valued in gold in the 1970s, it is a free floating Fiat currency since Nixon took down the Bretton Wood's gold backing.

USD is now viewed as obligations of the Government of the United States which gets its revenue from taxing its economy (a function of GDP) and is secured by the bullets and bombs parent writes about.

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joejerryronnie8y ago

This would be true if people were creating new types of precious metals everyday

Simon_says8y ago

In my opinion, what it means is that you can expect lower than historically average returns on investments over the next decade or so. This could mean a crash followed by normal returns or just pitiful yet slow and steady growth -- no way to predict the path we get there.

It also means cryptocurrencies will be bid up in the short to medium term without regard to their fundamentals. Best of luck with your coins.

nstj8y ago

Everything can be inflated as these are income paying securities. If all securities pay meagre (or negative!) returns then all assets can be inflated simultaneously.

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7 comments · 3 top-level

pyvpx8y ago· 4 in thread

ethereum is undervalued @ over $200 a token because...what?

this is tulip mania. at least when a stock price shoots up over news, that company is (generally) backed by revenue. a sales channel. assets. something. anything.

a cryptographic signature is only worth something if a group of people all agree it is worth something.

before someone makes the fiat argument -- the USD is worth something because there are a lot of bullets and bombs behind it.

Simon_says8y ago

CraigRood8y ago

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zeusk8y ago

USD was last valued in gold in the 1970s, it is a free floating Fiat currency since Nixon took down the Bretton Wood's gold backing.

USD is now viewed as obligations of the Government of the United States which gets its revenue from taxing its economy (a function of GDP) and is secured by the bullets and bombs parent writes about.

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joejerryronnie8y ago

This would be true if people were creating new types of precious metals everyday

Simon_says8y ago

It also means cryptocurrencies will be bid up in the short to medium term without regard to their fundamentals. Best of luck with your coins.

nstj8y ago

Everything can be inflated as these are income paying securities. If all securities pay meagre (or negative!) returns then all assets can be inflated simultaneously.

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