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0 pointsjohndubchak8y ago0 comments

Modern IDEs can deliver many of the recommendations of the book. Our productivity has increased a great deal. Back then there was no intellisense, code navigation through clicking on method names/classes etc. highlighted syntax errors, built-in unit test frameworks etc.

It was written for a different type of developer and a different type of development environment and a specific language, C++.

You haven't looked at C++ lately if you think it's the same as it was in 2004. The ISO has released new versions of the language in 2011, 2014 and ratified a new standard here in 2017. If you're writing C++ code that is consistent with 2004 C++ then you're writing a really bad version of "C with classes", not C++.

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Modern C++ contains native support for the filesystem, threads, lambda expressions, variants, upcoming networking library, coroutines (at least in Visual Studio), no more new/delete memory management, parallel algorithms and a ton more. This is a completely different language now and the code you write looks nothing like 2004 C++ code.

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pvg8y ago

Our productivity has increased a great deal. Back then there was no intellisense, code navigation through clicking on method names/classes etc. highlighted syntax errors, built-in unit test frameworks etc.

Just about all of these things were around in 2004.

fsloth8y ago

"You haven't looked at C++ lately if you think it's the same as it was in 2004."

"If you're writing C++ code that is consistent with 2004 C++ then you're writing a really bad version of "C with classes", not C++."

I applaud your attempt at an authoritative voice. But you focus on mostly technical trivia that are thin scaffolding on top of the language. I agree modern C++ is nice but it's the same language still.

"This is a completely different language now and the code you write looks nothing like 2004 C++ code."

Are you trolling? This reads like a transcript from a TV commercial.

khedoros18y ago

They sound like they're echoing the kinds of things that are normally said about C++11.

> I agree modern C++ is nice but it's the same language still.

Well...in the same sense that any language is the same language after you add a bunch of things to it that weren't there before and shift to using those new features as idiomatic parts of the language. I would expect C++ written in 2004 to use different patterns than C++ written in 2017. Not "completely different"...but different.

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mattmanser8y ago

Intellisense (the MS one) was introduced in 1996. VB6 had good intellisense. I seem to remember having intellisense while working in classic asp vb (as in pre .Net), but could be wrong, it's so long ago now.

atilaneves8y ago

A lot of people have to maintain legacy C++98 codebases and don't get to play with new compilers.

fatso838y ago

Modern IDEs can do many of the refactorings required when modifying code, yes. But you still need to know where to find seams or how to create them. Refactorings are just tools for getting there. It doesn't seem like you have read the book.

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