can you quote Greg back on your "At most 80% of Linux contributors have jobs at software companies" because i don't see it in there? and you can add the source for your 20% while at it. on the other hand what Greg did say is this:

> The majority of developers are paid for their work[...].

that's not at all true for our case, that's all i pointed out.

> I'm a maintainer of container runtimes at my current job but I have > contributed code to Linux as part of my job.

if it's on company time (and thus dime) then yes, it's a paid job.

> 14% of changesets and 13% of lines changed are by people not associated with a company.

not really, more than half of each is 'unknown', so you can't tell one way or another. anyway, not sure what these are supposed to prove/disprove given what Greg himself said in the above quote.

> It's like you're not willing to acknowledge that the only reason someone would pay a two-person > team for support on a kernel technology like grsecurity+PaX is that the same team is developing it.

indeed it's not the only reason but since it's not your business (no offense meant just stating a fact), i can't comment on this further. what i did mean however is something different than the direction you veered off: our work isn't developed because it's paid for, it's a completely volunteer free time project (spender has a day job unrelated to this work, and until about a year ago i didn't have any at all in fact). that is, if you took the money out of the picture, our work would still continue to live on as it has for the previous 16 years. that is absolutely not true for upstream linux development (if it were then all these companies have been cheated out of their money they spent on developer salaries).