One Night in Rio: Vacation Photos from Plan9 (opens in new tab)

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113 pointscrazyloglad9y ago7 comments

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bnolsen9y ago· 3 in thread

wireframe resize and move is the easy answer for reducing application resize events and display server spamming. This is a core problem I've always had with enlightenment window manager, it forces opaque resize/move no matter what which murders remote display usage.

jhbadger9y ago

Of course when Enlightenment first came out, the opaque treatment of windows was a fairly new thing (I think BeOS was where that originated). At the time wireframe window movement was the standard -- on X, on the Mac, and on Microsoft Windows.

barrkel9y ago

Windows NT had full blitting of windows while moving them instead of xored wireframe - it was the single easiest way of distinguishing between it and Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. That was in 93/94 - I don't know how it compared with Be of that era, but Wikipedia says the first developer release wasn't until late 95.

f2f9y ago

i added wireframe resize to Rio 15 years ago. people didn't like it :)

http://mirtchovski.com/lanlp9/rio/index.html

erikpukinskis9y ago· 2 in thread

All window systems suck because of premature encapsulation.

The idea that software could lay out two pieces of content without any access to the semantics of that content is flawed.

We won't improve on the Macintosh until we break the window/windower encapsulation. A window manager needs to provide an API for windows to see virtual reality around them and move through it.

bmillare9y ago

Can you expand on this idea or provide examples and how it solves problems with the old model? What current UI system better models the concept you are talking about? Do web pages do this better?

erikpukinskis9y ago

Sure, hypertext/wikis are used for window management quite often. Also, news feeds are quite common. Wikis are good for treelike content structures, and news feeds are good for serialized content.

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