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0 pointsMichaelBurge8y ago0 comments

> Lesson #2: If someone accuses you of theft, deny it instead of pleading the fifth

What is the clear benefit to denying rather than pleading the fifth? I know from Psychology that telling a jury to disregard information makes it seem more valuable and true, but that's more speculative than what you seem to have seen.

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dragonwriter8y ago

> What is the clear benefit to denying rather than pleading the fifth?

You open yourself up to perjury charges as well as the charges you were trying to protect against with the Fifth, plus you open yourself to unlimited cross-examination and impeachment of your testimony.

Oh, wait, you said benefit.

throwaway7298y ago

> What is the clear benefit to denying rather than pleading the fifth?

Avoiding an injunction against your business.

MichaelBurgeOP8y ago

I think I see: You were comparing the GP to someone in Kalanick's position, not to Levandowski. I don't think Uber itself has pleaded the fifth - though they've made an argument related to pleading the fifth - so I misunderstood you.

I would hold off on taking any lessons at all until it's had a few years to work its way through the courts: News has the problem that outrage generates clicks and views. The question of "Should a company distance itself from executives accused of a crime by a competitor?" seems better served by referring to decades of case law, than by reacting to any news article.

throwaway7298y ago

> I think I see: You were comparing the GP to someone in Kalanick's position, not to Levandowski.

I am considering GP's situation directly -- leaving a company to create a start up and then being sued.

If he didn't steal, he should say so to save his business. If he doesn't say so, he risks his business. That's the downside.

Of course, if he did steal, he should shut up and lesson #2 explicitly doesn't apply.

The present situation is different -- Levandowski's fate probably isn't tied to Uber's and certainly vice versa.

> I would hold off on taking any lessons at all until it's had a few years to work its way through the courts

I stand by the "don't steal" lesson :-)

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dragonwriter8y ago

> What is the clear benefit to denying rather than pleading the fifth?

Oh, wait, you said benefit.

throwaway7298y ago

> What is the clear benefit to denying rather than pleading the fifth?

Avoiding an injunction against your business.

MichaelBurgeOP8y ago

throwaway7298y ago

> I think I see: You were comparing the GP to someone in Kalanick's position, not to Levandowski.

I am considering GP's situation directly -- leaving a company to create a start up and then being sued.

If he didn't steal, he should say so to save his business. If he doesn't say so, he risks his business. That's the downside.

Of course, if he did steal, he should shut up and lesson #2 explicitly doesn't apply.

The present situation is different -- Levandowski's fate probably isn't tied to Uber's and certainly vice versa.

> I would hold off on taking any lessons at all until it's had a few years to work its way through the courts

I stand by the "don't steal" lesson :-)

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