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0 pointsmahyarm9y ago0 comments

Apple's target is the 1-5 person developer team with maybe 50kloc of code & 1 mac mini acting as a CI box. Xcode scales ok in these cases.

Backend development tends to feature a lot more developers with a lot more code. Swift starts getting really painful when you hit those numbers. Go look at presentations done by larger swift codebases like linked-in, uber, lyft & airbnb to see where it starts happening.

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SiVal9y ago

Of course, all dev gets more painful with more devs and larger code, so I assume you're saying that it increases more steeply with Swift than with...what? Java maybe? Or something else that the presentations you mention were comparing it to?

mahyarmOP9y ago

Objective-C, Objective-C++, Java, Javascript/Node, Python, Ruby, Golang, C++, C, C#. Build times increase significantly, the indexer takes 15-30m, sourcekit crashes, xcode UX freezes for 5s repeatedly, the debugger cannot print values when you hit a break point. On and on and on.

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SiVal9y ago

mahyarmOP9y ago

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