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0 pointspjmlp9y ago0 comments

It is called Visual C++ and hence the focus is on C++. The only C related updates are done to the extent as required by ANSI C++.

For anyone else that still wants to write straight C, there are other compilers and Microsoft has integrated clang's frontend with VC++ backend.

This has already been communicated in a few places.

Cloudfare's crash just proved once more why the world needs less C.

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xorblurb9y ago

Your last sentence is curious because it's highly debatable whether the world needs less C to get more C++ ...

pjmlpOP9y ago

C++ provides the tools that C lacks for writing safer code.

Of course it doesn't help if people write "C with C++ compiler" and better alternatives are desired, where copy-pasting C code is not possible.

Eventually one of the current candidates will won over the roles of C and C++, except for environments married with C, like UNIX derivatives.

Until then, when the choice boils down only to C vs C++, there is no question that in regards to language features for writing safer code, C++ is the only possible answer.

xorblurb9y ago

C++ would not have helped as a target language for compiling Ragel, at the level the compiling is done. Actually IIRC Ragel enhanced their output to mitigate that kind of situation, and the intermediate language they target is still C.

I'm not sure anybody targets C++ as an intermediate language when emitting code at this level. (I do have written some code that emits some C++, but at a wildly different and higher level). I'm not sure this would bring any value.

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0 pointspjmlp9y ago0 comments

It is called Visual C++ and hence the focus is on C++. The only C related updates are done to the extent as required by ANSI C++.

For anyone else that still wants to write straight C, there are other compilers and Microsoft has integrated clang's frontend with VC++ backend.

This has already been communicated in a few places.

Cloudfare's crash just proved once more why the world needs less C.

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xorblurb9y ago

Your last sentence is curious because it's highly debatable whether the world needs less C to get more C++ ...

pjmlpOP9y ago

C++ provides the tools that C lacks for writing safer code.

Of course it doesn't help if people write "C with C++ compiler" and better alternatives are desired, where copy-pasting C code is not possible.

Eventually one of the current candidates will won over the roles of C and C++, except for environments married with C, like UNIX derivatives.

Until then, when the choice boils down only to C vs C++, there is no question that in regards to language features for writing safer code, C++ is the only possible answer.

xorblurb9y ago

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