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0 pointsshakna9y ago0 comments

I realise PHP can't go away, hence "self-contained bundle".

The docs I referenced are not the official documentation, but rather mind-bendingly bad systems I've had to deal with that were undocumented.

PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

Hide the PHP in a nice self-contained system, and I won't care, plus it'll simplify install/setup.

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stephenr9y ago

> PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

It sounds like those experiences were the fault of the developers not some intrinsic issue with the language itself. (i.e. its not like say "i hate flash because its a security shit-fueled nightmare").

Either way, the system currently has an "install script" and aims to develop deb/rpm/etc packages to achieve the same result, which seems like it's what you want.

shaknaOP9y ago

Snaps would be more along the lines of what I'm suggesting.

Using the system package manager still pulls down dependencies I don't want system-wide.

stephenr9y ago

So, you want unpatched, unmaintained packages on your system?

The only dependencies this should have on eg Debian are PHP, SQLite and the Web Server virtual package.

jameskegel9y ago

How do you feel about PHP7?

shaknaOP9y ago

It goes a long way to making PHP better. Better defaults, better stdlib.

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0 pointsshakna9y ago0 comments

I realise PHP can't go away, hence "self-contained bundle".

The docs I referenced are not the official documentation, but rather mind-bendingly bad systems I've had to deal with that were undocumented.

PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

Hide the PHP in a nice self-contained system, and I won't care, plus it'll simplify install/setup.

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stephenr9y ago

> PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

Either way, the system currently has an "install script" and aims to develop deb/rpm/etc packages to achieve the same result, which seems like it's what you want.

shaknaOP9y ago

Snaps would be more along the lines of what I'm suggesting.

Using the system package manager still pulls down dependencies I don't want system-wide.

stephenr9y ago

So, you want unpatched, unmaintained packages on your system?

The only dependencies this should have on eg Debian are PHP, SQLite and the Web Server virtual package.

jameskegel9y ago

How do you feel about PHP7?

shaknaOP9y ago

It goes a long way to making PHP better. Better defaults, better stdlib.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse