Yes, it went seriously off-topic (and we've marked it as such, which sends it to the bottom of the page). But you made the thread even worse by posting this. Your interest in high-quality discussion and startup opportunities are quite positive motivations. Please express them in a way that makes HN better, or at least doesn't harm it.

One thing people can do in a case like this is email us at hn@ycombinator.com to let us know that the top subthread has veered off-topic. We intervene when we see that but we need your help to see everything.