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0 pointswehadfun9y ago0 comments

>Why does that matter? Does one atrocity excuse another?

Absolutely if they are related. If you witness a guy setting your neighbors house on fire, then he sets the house across the street on fire. Then you committing the "atrocity" of running him over with your car it is excused. And if a couple of his buddies that were with him die in the process its excused as well.

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munificent9y ago

I think a better analogy in this case is:

You witness a guy setting your neighbor's house on fire, then he sets the house across the street on fire.

So you find everyone whose eyes are the same color as your neighbor and run over them with your car.

wehadfunOP9y ago

No I think its more like finding everyone with the same gang symbols and running them over.

I know we should say that Japanese Americans and Regular Americans are the same that is true for most circumstances but I think that Japanese Americans have a stronger tie to Japan than a non Japanese American has to the 4 or 5 European countries that their ancestors are from.

I'm not saying the rational for locking up Japanese Americans was good or correct but given the circumstances I understand why it happened and the reasons, in my opinion, were not evil or selfish.

munificent9y ago

Are you honestly trying to equate deliberately choosing to wear a gang sign with the nationality of your ancestors which you have no control over?

Of the Japanese interned by these camps, the majority were United States citizens born in the United States.

> I understand why it happened and the reasons, in my opinion, were not evil or selfish.

The official stance of the US government itself after investigating the camps later was that they were a product of "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership."

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JoeAltmaier9y ago

Xenophobic racist ranting is pretty much the definition of evil. We can try to explain it away by circumstances, but pretty much one guy spearheaded it all and he was definitely racist and evil.

TulliusCicero9y ago

It's more like finding their family and running them over. That'll show them to be born as the wrong person!

Forlien9y ago

But in this example Japanese Americans weren't his buddies, they were innocent people taken from their homes without trial. Going back to your example, let's ignore the issue of a lack of trial with vigilante justice. If instead you ran over him and another innocent passerby, is your example still clear-cut?

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munificent9y ago

I think a better analogy in this case is:

You witness a guy setting your neighbor's house on fire, then he sets the house across the street on fire.

So you find everyone whose eyes are the same color as your neighbor and run over them with your car.

wehadfunOP9y ago

No I think its more like finding everyone with the same gang symbols and running them over.

I'm not saying the rational for locking up Japanese Americans was good or correct but given the circumstances I understand why it happened and the reasons, in my opinion, were not evil or selfish.

munificent9y ago

Are you honestly trying to equate deliberately choosing to wear a gang sign with the nationality of your ancestors which you have no control over?

Of the Japanese interned by these camps, the majority were United States citizens born in the United States.

> I understand why it happened and the reasons, in my opinion, were not evil or selfish.

The official stance of the US government itself after investigating the camps later was that they were a product of "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership."

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JoeAltmaier9y ago

Xenophobic racist ranting is pretty much the definition of evil. We can try to explain it away by circumstances, but pretty much one guy spearheaded it all and he was definitely racist and evil.

TulliusCicero9y ago

It's more like finding their family and running them over. That'll show them to be born as the wrong person!

Forlien9y ago

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