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0 pointsk__9y ago0 comments

Hm, doesn't seem that much of a win for React users.

The performance is compareable, but they went for templates instead of the "it's just JS"-philosophy of React. Reminds me of "the fear of turing complete templates"[0]

Also, they mention their bindings are similar to MobX. I had the feeling MobX was a step back in the React eco-system, if I think about what Facebook wanted to achieve with Flux.

But yes, overall it seems like a much simpler approach than React or Angular, not to mention Angluar 2, lol. But it seems to come at the cost of the points I mentioned, which were really a pain back in the days and got solved with Flux and JSX.

It also doesn't seem to solve some problems that React didn't solve, like realtime asynchronous data or fractal state.

[0] http://lhorie.github.io/mithril-blog/getting-over-a-fear-of-...

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meathook9y ago

You can use JSX to write your render functions in Vue [0]. It's opt-in as the Vue community views them as overkill in the usual case.

Personally, I appreciate having the intuitive approach for templating as the default for people who don't share my encyclopedic knowledge of web development. They can more easily follow along and contribute.

[0] https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/render-function#JSX

k__OP9y ago

I see :)

> I appreciate having the intuitive approach for templating as the default for people who don't share my encyclopedic knowledge of web development

I always saw it the other way around, haha :) Why should I learn some template language, when JS can do the job and I already know it.

Touche9y ago

JSX is not JavaScript. If its not in a spec that is ever going to be implemented by a JS runtime, like a browser or Node.js, then it's not JavaScript. It's a superset of JavaScript.

If you admit that JSX is a superset of JS then the downsides become readily apparent. Many will still choose JSX and there's nothing wrong with that, but the argument isn't "why would I use X when Y is better".

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kimshibal9y ago

If you like JSX, please stick with React.

k__OP9y ago

I think it's okay, makes finding markup in .js files much easier.

But I think I prefer t7, because it works 'native'

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0 pointsk__9y ago0 comments

Hm, doesn't seem that much of a win for React users.

The performance is compareable, but they went for templates instead of the "it's just JS"-philosophy of React. Reminds me of "the fear of turing complete templates"[0]

Also, they mention their bindings are similar to MobX. I had the feeling MobX was a step back in the React eco-system, if I think about what Facebook wanted to achieve with Flux.

It also doesn't seem to solve some problems that React didn't solve, like realtime asynchronous data or fractal state.

[0] http://lhorie.github.io/mithril-blog/getting-over-a-fear-of-...

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meathook9y ago

You can use JSX to write your render functions in Vue [0]. It's opt-in as the Vue community views them as overkill in the usual case.

[0] https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/render-function#JSX

k__OP9y ago

I see :)

> I appreciate having the intuitive approach for templating as the default for people who don't share my encyclopedic knowledge of web development

I always saw it the other way around, haha :) Why should I learn some template language, when JS can do the job and I already know it.

Touche9y ago

JSX is not JavaScript. If its not in a spec that is ever going to be implemented by a JS runtime, like a browser or Node.js, then it's not JavaScript. It's a superset of JavaScript.

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kimshibal9y ago

If you like JSX, please stick with React.

k__OP9y ago

I think it's okay, makes finding markup in .js files much easier.

But I think I prefer t7, because it works 'native'

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse