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0 pointsfarright9y ago0 comments

"attractive for the combination of proximity, and cultural/linguistic similarities... There is something to be said for not having to deal with the ... insane levels of violence too."

If you just take the above elements of your reasoning, you've just described White flight.

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KirinDave9y ago· 4 in thread

I mean, if there was a State in the US where guns were realistically outlawed I'd move there too. Implying that is "white" flight is implying that white people are not major perpetrators of gun violence in America, which simply isn't true.

Gun violence in the US is a major problem and our gun ownership and sales policies are at the heart of it. I've considered moving my family away from it long before this horrifying outcome.

wyoh9y ago

I'd love if you could back up your "white people are major perpetrators of gun violence in the US". FBI crime stats don't seem to agree with you.

KirinDave9y ago

In terms of fatality ratios.

farrightOP9y ago

See https://www.statista.com/chart/3848/the-us-murder-rate-compa...

The murder rate for whites in the US (i.e. the rate at which whites are murdered) is 2.5 per 100,000 much lower than the overall murder rate of 5.2 per 100,000. This is still higher than most of the West, e.g. 70% higher than Canada. But not the "extreme levels" you referred to earlier.

And you didn't mention guns before, I'm assuming you don't really only care about violence that comes out of the barrel of a gun, and you're just adding this now to avoid discussing the link between race and crime.

KirinDave9y ago

I'm not saying from it, although I think that it's not difficult to demonstrate that a disenfranchised group with poor economic prospects tends to self-radicalize.

I don't view a ton of difference between extremist terrorist conscription and, say, gang violence.

I think many of the same triggers are exploited. And you see those same triggers at play in traditionally white "militia" folks as well.

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