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0 pointsAnimats9y ago0 comments

Of course, Tesla acts like it owns that data. Their privacy policy permits them to monitor your vehicle unless you opt out. But there's no reason you can't download that data yourself, if you can figure out how to do so.

Does anybody make an antenna-level middle box for GSM phones? Something you hook into the antenna cable as a firewall/monitor?

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ranman9y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_0c9R4Fng

My favorite part is that the VPN keys were called "carkeys.tar"

perbu9y ago

FWIW; in the current software you have to opt into "fleet learning". So the car will not participate in data gathering unless you actively turn it on.

They still have access to the car and it's logs, however. Unless you remove the SIM card and disable Wifi, then you are truly on your own.

noselasd9y ago

I would be surprised if Tesla backhauls their data over anything but a TLS connection (even if they only need GPRS connectivity). - thus making a middlebox useless.

Besides products sold to governments agencies, the only 2 options I know of to make a GSM middlebox are OpenBTS or the osmocom stack.

You'd probably have better luck getting at that data through onboard diagnostic ports or the like.

scandox9y ago

Does this mean that Tesla owners could band together and sell all this massively valuable data to Google?

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