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0 pointsdragontamer9y ago0 comments

Well, so are Amazon's lowest tier nodes. I think its fair to say that AWS and Azure aren't competing against cheap VPS like Linode or Digital Ocean.

Frankly, I'm beginning to think that things are swinging back to dedicated. I'm seeing ~$30 to ~$50 / month deals on a lot of dedicated servers (years old Xeon boxes), which have the main advantage of dedicated I/O. (No "neighbors" eating up the SSD or HDD IOPS).

https://www.nocix.net/dedicated/

https://www.kimsufi.com/uk/servers.xml

For a certain scale, aiming at dedicated is probably cheaper, especially when you consider how much faster a dedicated SSD box is than a shared VPS.

The main benefits of AWS (or Azure) are all of the other features they offer on their platform. But I don't think that they are low-cost anymore, especially in today's world with ~$42/month dedicated SSD Xeon servers.

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kuschku9y ago

You might also want to add https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex40 to your list of cheap dedicated servers.

It’s seriously crazy how expensive AWS, Azure, and co are.

mark_l_watson9y ago

I will add my thanks for your nocix suggestion. I prefer to do my development on a beefy VPS, most often from OVH, but I think I will try switching to novix for a few months. (I don't like my laptop heating up or running out of capacity, and it is nicer to have a dev setup that I can hit from any laptop (or tablet)). For development, I don't need super high reliability.

dragontamerOP9y ago

Well, development seems more like a VPS job, since you aren't going to be utilizing the CPU too much.

I think high-load web servers (which will be hitting the disk often) or video game servers (especially world-simulations like Minecraft or Factorio) that will benefit from dedicated servers the most.

But give it a shot. I know that the higher-cost VPS are more expensive than those dedicated boxes. I'm also surprised at how cheap dedicated has gotten recently.

mark_l_watson9y ago

I do have high CPU utilization tasks, like large Haskell builds, Tensoflow, etc. I agree that the cheap physical server costs are surprising, given facility and power costs.

valarauca19y ago

Wow thanks for the Nocix link. I never came across them before. That is dirt cheap.

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0 pointsdragontamer9y ago0 comments

Well, so are Amazon's lowest tier nodes. I think its fair to say that AWS and Azure aren't competing against cheap VPS like Linode or Digital Ocean.

https://www.nocix.net/dedicated/

https://www.kimsufi.com/uk/servers.xml

For a certain scale, aiming at dedicated is probably cheaper, especially when you consider how much faster a dedicated SSD box is than a shared VPS.

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kuschku9y ago

You might also want to add https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex40 to your list of cheap dedicated servers.

It’s seriously crazy how expensive AWS, Azure, and co are.

mark_l_watson9y ago

dragontamerOP9y ago

Well, development seems more like a VPS job, since you aren't going to be utilizing the CPU too much.

I think high-load web servers (which will be hitting the disk often) or video game servers (especially world-simulations like Minecraft or Factorio) that will benefit from dedicated servers the most.

But give it a shot. I know that the higher-cost VPS are more expensive than those dedicated boxes. I'm also surprised at how cheap dedicated has gotten recently.

mark_l_watson9y ago

I do have high CPU utilization tasks, like large Haskell builds, Tensoflow, etc. I agree that the cheap physical server costs are surprising, given facility and power costs.

valarauca19y ago

Wow thanks for the Nocix link. I never came across them before. That is dirt cheap.

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