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0 pointsihsw9y ago0 comments

Here: https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=709632

Cited directly from the submission that you clearly did not read.

Soldiers themselves are posting online calling for the death of Palestinians.

This is very far from the case of uneducated Muslims being whipped into a frenzy, and I say that as someone that adamantly views the Israel-Arab schism as a fight between civilized men and savages. I'm about as pro-Israel as you can get but the conduct of Israelis can get just as disgusting as their Arab detractors.

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reitanqild9y ago

Thanks! I'm all for facts and I clearly missed this.

ihswOP9y ago

Read the article, it's all about how Israel is going above and beyond its data-sharing partnership with Facebook to unfairly impose censorship rules for behavior that they themselves are guilty of. Hypocrisy at its finest.

There are more links to sources in the article.

reitanqild9y ago

Feel free to read my sources currently at the bottom of this page where Facebook had to admit that their moderation was clearly biaded against Israel as late as in January this year.

selimthegrim9y ago

Did your parents play you too many Leon Uris audiobooks in the crib?

ihswOP9y ago

No I'm just extremely jaded by seeing uneducated masses get manipulated by awful people.

Being targeted by Israeli extremists for holding them to high standards and expectations is pretty unpleasant, and being targeted by Arab extremists for accepting the existence of the Israeli state is also unpleasant.

I sympathize with both Israeli and Palestinian people, I accept the existence of the Israeli state, and I recognize the need for Palestinians to have political representation. Call me what you want but please don't jump to conclusions or make any hasty decisions.

reitanqild9y ago

Thanks. Seems we agree on a lot. I very much appreciate your position about sympathising with both parts as well as the fact that you bring sources to the table.

I might also be a bit biased as around here (both locally and on hn it seems) there is or has been a quite strong anti-Israel bias although at least were I live that seems to have been changing over the last year.

selimthegrim9y ago

Look, I too accept Israel's legitimacy but it's hard to take for example people complaining about NPR as being biased against Israel when (as someone on HN put it) every Palestinian they seem to interview is always conceding they see the reason why Israel is doing <thing they're being interviewed about>. Does that sound like an interview of representative Palestinians to you? If it was, would the conflict be an issue?

relics4439y ago

Are you saying Palestinians don't have political representation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Kn...

ihswOP9y ago

Many Palestinians don't feel they are being represented by those people.

You are absolutely correct that there is (IMO) a healthy amount of Arabs elected to the Knesset, but I think more needs to be done to integrate them into normal and day-to-day Israeli society. Unfortunately, integration into host societies is not popular among hard-liner fundamentalists.

Frankly I think something akin to the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement in Canada would be appropriate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut_Land_Claims_Agreement

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ceejayoz9y ago

That's like saying North Koreans have freedom of speech because some North Korean defectors live in the US. A Palestinian in Gaza is not the same thing as an Israeli Arab.

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reitanqild9y ago

Thanks! I'm all for facts and I clearly missed this.

ihswOP9y ago

There are more links to sources in the article.

reitanqild9y ago

Feel free to read my sources currently at the bottom of this page where Facebook had to admit that their moderation was clearly biaded against Israel as late as in January this year.

selimthegrim9y ago

Did your parents play you too many Leon Uris audiobooks in the crib?

ihswOP9y ago

No I'm just extremely jaded by seeing uneducated masses get manipulated by awful people.

reitanqild9y ago

Thanks. Seems we agree on a lot. I very much appreciate your position about sympathising with both parts as well as the fact that you bring sources to the table.

selimthegrim9y ago

relics4439y ago

Are you saying Palestinians don't have political representation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Kn...

ihswOP9y ago

Many Palestinians don't feel they are being represented by those people.

Frankly I think something akin to the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement in Canada would be appropriate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut_Land_Claims_Agreement

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ceejayoz9y ago

That's like saying North Koreans have freedom of speech because some North Korean defectors live in the US. A Palestinian in Gaza is not the same thing as an Israeli Arab.

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