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You are comparing premium tesla sedans with ford and Honda cars, of course premium car will take longer to build. Porsche for example produced 189,000 cars [1] in 2014 with 19,000 employees. And the average price of Porsche car is also lower than Tesla's. [1] - http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=897

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Joof9y ago

Calling it a logical fallacy that a premium car takes longer to build because it is premium.

carterehsmith9y ago

The premium car will have lot more parts, like 26-speaker sound system etc, additional soundproofing, double-pane glass, heated _and_cooled seats etc. That takes work to install.

Next, the QA on a premium car has to me more stringent, simply because the expectations are higher.

So I can't imagine luxury car not taking more time to make than a budget car.

makomk9y ago

By all accounts, Tesla neither have particularly stringent QA nor a premium car level of interior.

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gozur889y ago

Oh? Don't you think buyers of premium cars expect more in the way of difficult-to-manufacture details?

DasIch9y ago

Buyers of premium cars expect details that are expensive to manufacture. That doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be difficult to manufacture them or that the productivity has to be low.

Joof9y ago

I do. It just doesn't mean it's true or necessarily a requirement. Nor does it mean the car is better.

A better locksmith takes less time to open a door.

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znpy9y ago

Most of the assembly labour in order to create a Ferrari is manual labour. This is one of the reasons because they cost so much.

Oh, that and the fact that such cars can easily reach 300 km/h.

jpatokal9y ago

Sure, but that's still ~3x more per employee than Tesla.

durkie9y ago

but tesla's production rate is increasing. the end of q2 saw rates of over 2k cars/week, which would be on target for >100k/year, over twice 2015's rate.

Robelius9y ago

Which is still not the 500000 cars/year they need.

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Joof9y ago

Calling it a logical fallacy that a premium car takes longer to build because it is premium.

carterehsmith9y ago

The premium car will have lot more parts, like 26-speaker sound system etc, additional soundproofing, double-pane glass, heated _and_cooled seats etc. That takes work to install.

Next, the QA on a premium car has to me more stringent, simply because the expectations are higher.

So I can't imagine luxury car not taking more time to make than a budget car.

makomk9y ago

By all accounts, Tesla neither have particularly stringent QA nor a premium car level of interior.

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gozur889y ago

Oh? Don't you think buyers of premium cars expect more in the way of difficult-to-manufacture details?

DasIch9y ago

Buyers of premium cars expect details that are expensive to manufacture. That doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be difficult to manufacture them or that the productivity has to be low.

Joof9y ago

I do. It just doesn't mean it's true or necessarily a requirement. Nor does it mean the car is better.

A better locksmith takes less time to open a door.

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znpy9y ago

Most of the assembly labour in order to create a Ferrari is manual labour. This is one of the reasons because they cost so much.

Oh, that and the fact that such cars can easily reach 300 km/h.

jpatokal9y ago

Sure, but that's still ~3x more per employee than Tesla.

durkie9y ago

but tesla's production rate is increasing. the end of q2 saw rates of over 2k cars/week, which would be on target for >100k/year, over twice 2015's rate.

Robelius9y ago

Which is still not the 500000 cars/year they need.

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