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0 pointslostlogin9y ago0 comments

This is exactly how it is though - now we have a "but he was a bad guy" narrative for the Iraq invasion. That good thing offsets the other stuff a bit right? I don't agree with it, but it's there.

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carapace9y ago· 1 in thread

I would ask, "Who's 'we' in that sentence?".

If we could survey Iraqis how many would say, "Yes, I hate being invaded and occupied, but at least they got rid of that jerk Saddam."? Keeping in mind that we can't survey the dead...

Notwithstanding that awesome scene in Monty Python's "Life of Brian":

> Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

> PFJ Member: Brought peace?

> Reg: Oh, peace? SHUT UP!

The basic issue facing everyone is how do we have the good stuff, while giving the bloodshed and trauma the miss?

lostloginOP9y ago

"We" was intended to mean everyone, but probably actually represents and small subset of the western world.I'm in New Zealand and get my news from US and UK papers (and our dross). Edit: the Monty Python sketch would perhaps apply if any of that stuff had been delivered. Are there measures by which Iraq is now better? Saddam has gone, that's good. Anything else?

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