Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice (opens in new tab)

thanks! I didn't take the time to setup Mist but my understanding is that Mist is especially vulnerable because it's bundled with a wallet and used for browsing DAPPS which always require the JSON API to be enabled.

Ether that you own (not related to the DAO) before the fork happens would be unaffected by the fork. But after the fork, suppose you accept payment for something. You can accept payment in cash, Bitcoin, Ether-on-left-side-of-fork, or Ether-on-right-side-of-fork. I suppose you could also insist on getting paid in BOTH "Ether-on-left-side-of-fork" and ALSO in "Ether-on-right-side-of-fork", but that starts to get really complicated.

Not if the transactions happen after the fork, and on the "wrong" one. If you're purely using Ethereum as a store of value, and already have all your funds put into it, then this won't affect you, sure. But if you're actually trying to use it as a currency like intended, then you're screwed.

Money isn't very useful if you can't transact it at all for fear that new transactions won't be any good.

That's not confusing at all.

That's how the softfork worked before it got scrapped. A hardfork literally splits the network in in two, it's basically like creating a new coin shares the previous history.

Dude, we could even name it something cute, like when you're trying to get a girl to marry you... Courting, yes, we could call it a Court!

I think that's kinda where http://urbit.org/ is going with its constitution.

Poe's law in full effect.

If you're serious: Why not make use of existing infrastructure (current courts, laws, etc) rather than reimplementing all that again on top of ethereum? Also, what prevents this new layer from becoming as corrupt and bureaucratic as the one we currently have in place?

Without irony, it would be awesome to have a court system on the internet.

How decentralized is a platform that hardforks via human intervention? What happens when the 51% choose to take the money of the 49%? If your blockchain changes the rules, because someone followed the rules of the code, but following those rules led to the "wrong" people losing money. Then your blockchain is more harmful than useful.

> Too many of the Ethereum devs had way too much of their currency tied up in the DAO.

Do you have any evidence of that? I know about the address that was found in both the Foundation wallet and as a DAO holder but I haven't seen any other developer shown to be DAO holders. Stephan Taul would obviously be a big DAO holder as one of the people behind it but he's not with the Ethereum Foundation anymore (having left to work on Slock.it and The DAO).

Even if they have a conflict of interest they seem to be going out of their way to let the community decide what to do.

Fiat currency bad, cryptocurrency good!

THey'll only halt deposits/withdrawals. Trading will be uninterrupted.