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0 pointsspiderfarmer9y ago0 comments

  This is othering for anyone who is not a heterosexual man

I disagree. Women look at other women as well. It's very natural to feel excluded when groups of people over something you don't get excited about, whatever the subject. If, for example, people can contain their excitement about Magic cards when I'm around, I'm fine.

  There is a long tradition of sexual images, suggestions and approaches being used to shame, scare, harrass or brutalise women.

Yeah, so a picture of a professional model is something completely different. You are dragging this point into the discussion but it doesn't add anything.

  ...they may reveal themselves as too sexual.

Just bring it back to basics. Men have dicks they want to use, women want to be admired. If people could just respect eachother while taking these basic needs into account, everyone would be fine.

I am happy that people here in the Netherlands are so much more tolerant when it comes down to things like sexuality, public intimicy and nudity. It seems to me that in the US people get offended very easily and want to limit another persons freedom of expression just so that they can be offended a little bit less.

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rabidsnail9y ago

Forget abstractions for a second; there are people whom this makes uncomfortable (we know because they said so), and the cost of that is much higher than the very small benefit of using one image over another as a test image. Simple cost/benefit analysis says to use something else.

EdHominem9y ago

Obviously in certain circumstances only - few of us here would censor Charlie Hebdo.

We only care about discomfort that we think is reasonable, or more accurately, not a lie designed to control the actions of others.

In this case, most people agree that sexualizing the workplace is a strong negative and are in agreement with you. But as a general rule, you'd have much less support.

rabidsnail9y ago

General rules aren't good for very much other than arguing with people on hacker news.

spiderfarmerOP9y ago

   I totally did not intend to put it to the floppy disk...

So he didn't mean to turn it in. But what he does in his own time, isn't that his business?

Your analysis also tells us that you should not look at porn in your own free time, as the potential cost is much higher because it makes 2 parties uncomfortable, if caught.

startling9y ago

And he received extra points for it.

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0 pointsspiderfarmer9y ago0 comments

  This is othering for anyone who is not a heterosexual man

  There is a long tradition of sexual images, suggestions and approaches being used to shame, scare, harrass or brutalise women.

Yeah, so a picture of a professional model is something completely different. You are dragging this point into the discussion but it doesn't add anything.

  ...they may reveal themselves as too sexual.

Just bring it back to basics. Men have dicks they want to use, women want to be admired. If people could just respect eachother while taking these basic needs into account, everyone would be fine.

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rabidsnail9y ago

EdHominem9y ago

Obviously in certain circumstances only - few of us here would censor Charlie Hebdo.

We only care about discomfort that we think is reasonable, or more accurately, not a lie designed to control the actions of others.

In this case, most people agree that sexualizing the workplace is a strong negative and are in agreement with you. But as a general rule, you'd have much less support.

rabidsnail9y ago

General rules aren't good for very much other than arguing with people on hacker news.

spiderfarmerOP9y ago

   I totally did not intend to put it to the floppy disk...

So he didn't mean to turn it in. But what he does in his own time, isn't that his business?

Your analysis also tells us that you should not look at porn in your own free time, as the potential cost is much higher because it makes 2 parties uncomfortable, if caught.

startling9y ago

And he received extra points for it.

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