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0 pointsMaxfordAndSons9y ago0 comments

That's a remarkably cynical opinion. Why do you assume bootcamp grads learn and become more valuable at a lesser rate than CS degree grads? You're also making the assumption that bootcamp grads decided to forgo a CS degree in favor of an easier route, which in my experience is rarely the case - by and large bootcampers are there because they want to change careers, not as a way to cheat the system without learning "the fundamentals".

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changkx9y ago

Obviously this isnt every case but quiet frankly it's bullshit if somebody who studied some "worthless" major like psychology or history then thinks they can do a 10 week coding bootcamp and be on par with a CS grad.

If anything the TIME alone that a CS grad has to put in to graduate puts them above coding bootcamps.

MaxfordAndSonsOP9y ago

I don't think most people come out of bootcamps claiming they're "on par" with CS grads, but rather that they're good enough to be given a chance for some subset of programming jobs.

Also the time based argument strikes me as misleading - bootcamps are much more intensive than university curriculums. University students aren't studying 10-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week every week; most Bootcamp students are. That said, I recognize that the University student undoubtedly takes in a greater volume of material, but the ratio is severely distorted by referring to it as 4 years.

kin9y ago

Bootcamps certainly sell on the promise of an engineer salary. They preach it and let it get into your head. At the end of the day you have bootcamp grads feeling entitled to a six figure salary.

Personally, I work with some great bootcamp devs but as a 4 year college grad I don't enjoy seeing the time and energy I spent undervalued that way.

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