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0 pointsdilemma9y ago0 comments

So under UBI, if someone in San Francisco, NYC, DC, Seattle, etc. loses their job, they should move to rural Wisconsin?

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Yes. Why not? When they do, it'll cause rent to drop in San Fran, NYC, DC and Seattle. The US has a staggering amount of available land. The problem with real estate is that prices are high where the jobs are located. With basic income you no longer have to live where the jobs are and can move around freely.

dilemmaOP9y ago

>When they do, it'll cause rent to drop in San Fran, NYC, DC and Seattle.

No it won't, no more than today.

>With basic income you no longer have to live where the jobs are and can move around freely.

Poor people are already "free" to not live in places they can't afford, and instead live in places with poor access to education and healthcare and jobs, and as such have reduced life expectancy. Your plan to use UBI to re-locate and segregate poor is no improvement compared to the current situation.

chongli9y ago

I live in Canada so I always take health care for granted in these sorts of discussions. Knowing this, it should come as no shock to you that I also support universal health care.

What may be less obvious is that I also support universal education and in Canada we also generally have that, at least as far as K-12 goes. If I were a parent, my children would have access to the same quality of public education in a small rural town as they would in a rich area of Toronto.

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kdamken9y ago

Yes. Honestly, if they're having trouble living there at their income level in the current system, they should be looking at moving to a cheaper area already.

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chongli9y ago

dilemmaOP9y ago

>When they do, it'll cause rent to drop in San Fran, NYC, DC and Seattle.

No it won't, no more than today.

>With basic income you no longer have to live where the jobs are and can move around freely.

chongli9y ago

I live in Canada so I always take health care for granted in these sorts of discussions. Knowing this, it should come as no shock to you that I also support universal health care.

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kdamken9y ago

Yes. Honestly, if they're having trouble living there at their income level in the current system, they should be looking at moving to a cheaper area already.

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