One day they decide everyone should be mobile friendly, the next day they decide which sites are bad and which are not, what more?
Every single day, google is giving me more reason to use alternative search engines.
We do ask this. It's the entire reason we vote in representative democracies. It's absolutely nothing like the question you're replying to.
> In any society, we have some basic rules of 'good' and 'bad', and it's totally ok to test a website on those measures.
The basic rules of societies for what is 'good' and 'bad' about websites is something that you have entirely invented here in order to make an empty, unnecessarily dismissive argument.
Here's my answer: Google decides because our governments have abdicated responsibility for regulation or enforcement. Therefore, the responsibility is taken up by the groups in the best position to exploit it for money.
In Chrome and firefox, if google decides your website isn't up to scratch for some random reason, then visitors will see a big scary red warning and be turned away.
Yes, in theory you could get people to use a browser that doesn't incorporate Google censorship, but that's becoming a big ask.
If your website does become blacklisted by Google, good luck finding out why. They won't tell you, and will instead make you click on a "request review" button a million times while you change things to see if it floats their boat.
Isn't it slightly worrying to have the entity who decides if websites are "safe" or not, also have a monopoly on online advertising? What's to stop them blacklisting sites that use competitors advertising? They could claim that it benefits the users some how, whilst squashing any hint of competition.
Google has become the absolute gatekeeper, and (To me at least) it's a very very sad state of affairs. The www used to be free and open.
Not necessarily true, your website being flagged by Google can get you blocked on multiple browsers. That's enough to destroy your traffic. Granted, I'd say 99% of these are legit flags from JS injections, etc.
Sure, you could use a browser that doesn't do this...but, you won't.
Thats an awful description of googles business model, but partly true...
Until they sort out their ads it's true, it is a dangerous site
IIRC when I searched for FF or Chrome, the top 4-5 results were links to third party sites, but when searching for nvidia drivers the official site was the first non-ad result. Definitely seemed suspicious, and also made me realize how much I missed apt.
Top three results on bing.com also point to google.com.
Didn't get any malware links like that.
Windows software installation model is horrifying.
see: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagn...
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Google, for the most parts, is the Internet, chrome, gmail, search engine, android, good lord even walking robots! We are lucky that they g+ failed miserably :D
Otherwise we'd not have Internet, we'd have Google, nothing in the world beyond it. Nobody to check it's power, except maybe the EU, but that's their jurisdiction.
I recently bought a macbook pro, whenever I visit google.com using macbook I get a small popup -> visit your privacy setting, no other platform did I ever get that popup. They apparently discriminate it. For work we use US network, and there I regularly see that popup, never on an Indian IP that I got that message. Apparently they think Indian's do not care much about their privacy. Too much for Don't be evil.
It may be surprising to those of us who hang out on HN, but Hotmail has over 360 million email customers. Yahoo (okay, okay) has over a quarter of a million. Yandex and QQ have dominant regional market share.
Access? Comcast, Verizon, I'm looking at you, at least in the U.S.
Backbone? Hi, AT&T, L3, NTT, <list of non-Google/Facebook companies>.
Amusing that you have a Macbook pro. I think there might be a $579B company with a huge market share of the mobile market (safari, not Chrome) sitting there.
Facts and actual data talk, not fear and rhetoric. The world has nuance that deserves credit.
Ultimately everything in life is an opinion, all that matters is we do what we feel is right and in general isn't outright incorrect, just because you people have the ability to downvote comments doesn't make you more informed than I am, especially when you don't understand what i am trying to say or i am not clear at what I say, that doesn't give you the right to be derogatory though, but this is HN and that behaviour is expected.
When I said Google is the Internet, and you don't understand it, then I pity that you people have the ability to downvote comments on this site.
Not everyone in the world means literally, when I say GOogle is the Internet that means Google is so powerful a company that 90+% of search market is with them, yes doubleclick I am looking at you, gmail, youtube, android, chromebook, google books, self driving car, a robotic cheetah that runs 200 something km per hour. That is scary.
I am getting downvoted because the people who are downvoting don't understand what I am trying to say. yeah go ahead and downvote this and justify your actions. doesn't make the things I say less than the truth.
Every computer I see has google chrome and google as the default search engine, God knows they did a research I read which tells the gender of the person by the way the keep their phone in their hand, can't cite it here because I am short on time.
Google is scary. The kind of power they have, had it not been for the EU they would have been even more dangerous, thankfully and regretfully EU has authority only in the EU.
In all seriousness though, they've got one of the largest public facing systems in the world. Given the surface area and traffic volumes, it's surprising that the don't have more issues than they do.
If Google serves a single malicious site as a linked result (or in a redirect) it will flag Google.com as hosting malicious content.
This has been the case for years now, also for other Google properties, like Youtube and DoubleClick.
https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagn...
So can I believe this page or not?
> Users sometimes post bad content on websites
> that are normally safe.
Any popular free hosting service ends up hosting phishing sites, but Google doesn't aggressively clean them out. Here's Google's oldest phishing site, from 2010.[2] It's an attempt to steal Habbo logins (Habbo is an old virtual world, similar to The Sims.) Lately, phishing via Google Drive is picking up. Phishing sites hosted on Google Spreadsheets have finally disappeared; you can put HTML in a spreadsheet cell and host a site that way. For a long time, Google didn't recognize that this was a way to host a fake site.
At least all the fake sites are under Google's subdomains (sites., drive., etc.) There used to be exploits using "google.com" as an open redirector.
[1] http://sitetruth.com/reports/phishes.html [2] https://sites.google.com/site/freehabbocoinsgbbo00/