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0 pointstrhway10y ago0 comments

man, i understand your logic, and i many cases i follow it myself. In this case the court is on your side, so not sure that me have much new to explore, i just wanted to mention the [failed] arguments of the other side that i'm sympathetic to in this case. I'm not against those magnets personally and think they should be available, it is just the situation that millions people have them lying around is really a danger. Not sure what can be done to make the situation great for everybody. At least in case of firearms, while they are available, they aren't just lying around easily accessible to children. Power tools, knives, lighters - it has been always, even in childhood, pretty much clear how they do the damage and how to handle them safely. Imagine though a power tool with non-widely known, say surprising, mode of injuring people, and i bet we'd see a bunch of such new injuries and probably the tool will be banned.

And this one http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/florida-mom-face... . Not for debating the 2nd (i myself think that the language of the 2nd is clear in actually granting one freedom to have even nukes). Just find it very illustrative that while firearms should be available (as 2nd states), some people just shouldn't have it. Again, have no idea how to implement it.

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simoncion10y ago

> ...it is just the situation that millions people have them lying around is really a danger.

24 incidents per year [0] (or -assuming only one million sets are out there- one incident per ~41,600 sets out there) doesn't seem like much of a danger. For comparison this [2] leads me to calculate that there are ~141 serious accidental poison exposures per 41,600 children out there. [3]

By all means, levy a serious penalty for the importation, production, or sale of inadequately or improperly labelled SREM magnet sets. But the actual danger of said sets really appears to be overstated by the CPSC.

[0] https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2014/10/03/2014-233... [1]

[1] Remember that the ALJ didn't find the CPSC's much larger injury estimates to be credible.

[2] http://www.poison.org/poison-statistics-national

[3] Poison control centers report 42.6 exposures per 1000 kids 6 and younger. NPDS reports that 8% of all reported poison exposures resulted in a moderate, or major effect. So, 42.60.0841.6. This isn't the right way to answer the question "How many young kids are seriously injured by poison exposure?", but it's certainly not a bad way to get an estimate.

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