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0 pointsthrownaway242410y ago0 comments

I always wondered why they don't toll the reverse direction as well.

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muzz10y ago· 3 in thread

Aren't most tolls everywhere just in one direction? That way, half the number of toll booths are needed compared to both directions (before FastTrak, etc each lane required a human cashier)

thrownaway2424OP10y ago

I don't know; I'm no expert on typical tollway designs. I've certainly seen turnpikes that are tolled both ways.

Anyway the number of cars queued up to cross the bridge to the east in the afternoon strongly suggests that road is underpriced.

techrat_hacker10y ago

By implementing another toll gates, they might actually worsen the traffic jam. When I cross the Bay Bridge, i see lines upto the toll booths, and after them, it's usually clear.

muzz10y ago

Sure if the cost is based on mileage then there would have to be tolls on both sides

odbol_10y ago· 1 in thread

They charge you for the privilege to visit SF, not to leave it.

thrownaway2424OP10y ago

Well that doesn't make any sense either, because there is no toll at the southern entrances to SF on 101 and 280.

I'm not looking for an answer here because I know the answer. The answer is that car drivers are the most self-entitled bunch of externalists the world has ever seen. If there was any sense in this system the toll at the existing toll plaza on the Bay Bridge would have been raised until congestion disappears, but that hasn't happened. On the other hand BART fares are indexed to inflation, because only the riff-raff ride transit.

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6 comments · 2 top-level

muzz10y ago· 3 in thread

Aren't most tolls everywhere just in one direction? That way, half the number of toll booths are needed compared to both directions (before FastTrak, etc each lane required a human cashier)

thrownaway2424OP10y ago

I don't know; I'm no expert on typical tollway designs. I've certainly seen turnpikes that are tolled both ways.

Anyway the number of cars queued up to cross the bridge to the east in the afternoon strongly suggests that road is underpriced.

techrat_hacker10y ago

By implementing another toll gates, they might actually worsen the traffic jam. When I cross the Bay Bridge, i see lines upto the toll booths, and after them, it's usually clear.

muzz10y ago

Sure if the cost is based on mileage then there would have to be tolls on both sides

odbol_10y ago· 1 in thread

They charge you for the privilege to visit SF, not to leave it.

thrownaway2424OP10y ago

Well that doesn't make any sense either, because there is no toll at the southern entrances to SF on 101 and 280.

I'm not looking for an answer here because I know the answer. The answer is that car drivers are the most self-entitled bunch of externalists the world has ever seen. If there was any sense in this system the toll at the existing toll plaza on the Bay Bridge would have been raised until congestion disappears, but that hasn't happened. On the other hand BART fares are indexed to inflation, because only the riff-raff ride transit.

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