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0 pointsptaipale10y ago0 comments

>The Paris attackers were French and Belgian, not immigrants.

Two of the nine were not - they were actual, recent immigrants through asylum-seeking process.

"Ahmad al-Mohammad" who came as a refugee through Turkey to Leroa in Greece, and together with him were registered the fingerprints of another immigrant known as "M. al-Mahmodin".

The rest were second-generation immigrants:

Bilal Hadfi was French but he spent time in Syria and came back, not through controlled border crossings, so he might have come with the asylees/immigrants. Others included French citizens Samy Amimour, who fought in Yemen, and Omar Ismail Mostefai and Foued Mohamed-Aggad who fought in Syria, and they were on wanted lists but were not spotted on border, so they appear to have come through people smugglers as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks#Id...

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ascorbic10y ago

The fact that Hadfi probably returned with refugees doesn't mean much, when he could have easily jumped on the Easyjet from Istanbul and strolled through the blue channel. Yes, two more of them also probably came that way, one of whom was on a false passport. So yes, maybe they were Syrian refugees, but all that says is that they haven't been identified. The fact that the only one of them who travelled that way who was positively identified turned out to be French means this is by no means a foregone conclusion.

If it turns out that they were in fact refugees, that still doesn't make it a migration problem when most of the attackers were French or Belgian.

ptaipaleOP10y ago

>The fact that Hadfi probably returned with refugees doesn't mean much, when he could have easily jumped on the Easyjet from Istanbul

If he'd jumped on Easyjet from Istanbul, he'd have had to provide a passport and visa and risk being arrested at border check in case the authorities were too interested in his involvement with extremists.

I don't get your point about blue channel; flights from Istanbul are not EU/Schengen internal.

Again, that's not something that totally prevents acts of terror, but would work as a bit of deterrent. I believe I should have a voice about this, because I live in the same Schengen area.

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