How a Game-Playing Robot Coded “Super Mario Maker” onto an SNES (opens in new tab)

(arstechnica.com)

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minimaxir10y ago· 4 in thread

Another interesting run during the TASBot block of AGDQ was the Brain Age run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRc5RH4tR1E (you can see pictures of the setup in the article)

In the run, the TASBot is hooked up to the DS's touch screen...and hilarity ensues. (it's a throwback to a Brain Age speedrun with a similar gimmick)

lfowles10y ago

I was wondering how it tricked the game into recognizing the correct answer. Does it end each question by writing the correct answer inside an already darkened portion maybe?

Karunamon10y ago

The tracking pays more attention to the length and position of your strokes, rather than doing what you might think of as OCR on the finished characters.

Here's a tool-assised run that the TASBot run was clearly inspired by: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_UtfOmp9E - you'll notice there's no opportunity for the actual numbers to be drawn in many instances.

A Japanese language article that goes more into the specifics: http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/tas%E8%AA%9E

keffcat10y ago

For the most part, the images were selected/drawn in a way that fools the engine. The team responsible for the speedrun made a brief writeup that explains some of the stuff they ended up using: http://tasvideos.org/GameResources/DS/BrainAgeTrainYourBrain...

egypturnash10y ago

Actual run begins at 16:00.

Zikes10y ago· 3 in thread

I watched a few speed runs from last week's Awesome Games Done Quick marathon and several of the runners were able to perform some impressive game breaking exploits in real-time. They didn't always manage it, but for most of the finicky exploits they usually had 3-4 runners doing the same trick simultaneously and at least one of them got it.

JoshTriplett10y ago

In particular, two out of four runners of Super Mario World managed to move objects to exact pixel positions such that their x/y coordinates represented machine code to jump to the credits sequence, and then get the game to jump to that code.

See the latter half of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3An7eUsnUc&list=PLz8YL4HVC8... for the video.

Fuzzwah10y ago

Direct link to the start of the run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3An7eUsnUc&t=51m40s

minimaxir10y ago

Many of the exploits done at AGDQ require "frame perfect" timing. Depending on the game, this is 1/24th of a second at best, and 1/60th of a second at worst.

It's no surprise that the exploits are finicky.

starshadowx210y ago· 3 in thread

Ah, I posted this yesterday but it didn't catch. I'm glad it's popular now so more people can see it.

TASBot is really great every year.

dang10y ago

We're working on the duplicate detector and one goal is to give the original submitter credit more often. Thanks for being generous about this case.

kevin_morrillOP10y ago

Sorry didn't see this was already submitted. Happy if dang wants to move karma over.

starshadowx210y ago

Oh no, it really doesn't matter to me. Karma/HN points aren't important, just people seeing good content is. I'm glad you reposted it.

jordigh10y ago· 2 in thread

A similar feat for Super Mario Bros 3. The guy used Excel to write NES assembly!

http://tasvideos.org/4961S.html

flanbiscuit10y ago

Was that really an original backdoor put in there by Shigeru? That's awesome

vanderZwan10y ago

I guess you only watched the video. If you scroll down a bit further it reads:

> I thought it'd be fun to pretend that SMB3's legendary lead developer, Shigeru Miyamoto, had left an intentional "back door" hidden in the game which we had only just now discovered.

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vlunkr10y ago· 1 in thread

The amazing thing is that this isn't a ROM hack, it's all done by exploiting glitches and completely hijacking the game. And it's done in real time on real hardware. The stream is worth watching.

jtolmar10y ago

It's a RAM hack!

phantarch10y ago

It's consistently amazing how ingenious some of these runners are in figuring out ways to break out of the apparent rules of a formal system and get creative with it. The TASbot guys have also done things like RAM manipulation of Pokemon games in order to rewrite the game code into displaying twitch chat.

AGDQ and SGDQ are two of the coolest video game-related events held every year. They're always streamed on Twitch, and recordings are posted to youtube. Anyone who has even a mild interest in gaming should check them out. https://gamesdonequick.com/

JonnieCache10y ago

You may also enjoy this speedrun of pokemon blue from last year's Summer Games Done Quick, where all 151 monsters are caught as quickly as possible. Essentially nothing is done correctly: menus are underflowed, pointers are gymnastically redirected, PRNGs are manipulated, various state machines are thrown out of alignment and fun is had by all.

https://youtu.be/wtZ7CzbxBFM?t=576

saganus10y ago

Wow. Just wow.

I never cease to be amazed at the amount of things a dedicated hacker (or team) can accomplish.

Also, great write up. Full of details and pictures!

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