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0 pointsderefr10y ago0 comments

I think the reasoning behind the debate is that, together, they mostly obsolete C/C++. Go takes the high-end and Rust takes the low-end, and there's no niche left for C to occupy in the middle.

I guess the real answer is, if you want to learn "the language that people will be using instead of C in ten years"... learn both of them.

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0xFFC10y ago

I don't think so. Of course, there is space for Rust and Go. But that does not mean there will be no niche for C and C++. That is simply not correct. Ignoring C and C++ mean you are ignoring maybe billion $ industry around them . and That is simply wishful thinking.

kamaal10y ago

>>Ignoring C and C++ mean you are ignoring maybe billion $ industry around them

Right, very difficult to move the inertia in any direction. The same is true about Java too.

But there are fewer reasons for any starting a new project to do it in C or C++.

Newer stuff replaces older stuff, Heck when C came along, there were languages with billion $ industry around them. C replaced them.

ybx10y ago

Sure, but you could argue the same for things like COBOL

yoklov10y ago

As someone in the games industry, I don't see anybody moving towards either of these languages over C++, or really even any excitement over them. I'd be very surprised if Rust displaces C++ here, and put the chance of Go doing so at pretty much 0.

If anything, the current trend is moving more low level (rather than higher level, which these languages both are), as techniques like data oriented design becoming more mainstream.

steveklabnik10y ago

  > (rather than higher level, which these languages both are)

Rust should be (and is, modulo wrinkles, I mean there's no fundamental reason) as low level as it gets. What makes Rust too high-level for gamedev?

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tux10y ago

"together, they mostly obsolete C/C++. Go takes the high-end and Rust takes the low-end"

In that case some one just code "GoRust" language ^_^

nickpsecurity10y ago

Go is of Pascal tradition of simple, efficient programming languages. Rust has memory and concurrency safety. So GoRust would be...

Concurrent Pascal (1975) by Brinch Hansen http://brinch-hansen.net/papers/

...Concurrent Pascal used in Solo OS. It supported human review via readable syntax, type safety, safe ops on memory, and a concurrency system that caught race conditions at compile time. The runtime underlying the OS was about 4K with the OS itself concise enough to put in one PDF in source form. So, Hansen for the [1975] win in the GoRust competition?

untothebreach10y ago

Nah, just use CGo to link to a lower-level Rust library :)

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