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0 pointsNullabillity10y ago0 comments

> They didn't have the animation or feedback systems that made iOS so pleasant to use.

Yay, glitter is the only thing that matters!

> None of them even pretended to offer a real web browser - it was WAP if anything.

Worked fine from what I remember.

> Everything before the iPhone was qualitatively and quantitatively inferior, even if it happened to have a janky plastic touch screen.

At least it wasn't the capacitive junk that all of them are now.

> They sure as hell weren't running slimmed down desktop operating systems with fully-featured frameworks.

iOS is definitely not a desktop OS. Where are the files? Multi-user support? Terminal?

> They ran whatever software your carrier deigned to offer at vastly inflated prices.

As opposed to whatever software Apple deigns to offer at vastly inflated prices?

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sbuk10y ago· 2 in thread

>> They didn't have the animation or feedback systems that made iOS so pleasant to use.

> Yay, glitter is the only thing that matters!

That's not what that statement says at all. Modes of interaction need refining. Apple have been doing it for a while. When it was released, it was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition.

>> None of them even pretended to offer a real web browser - it was WAP if anything.

>Worked fine from what I remember.

Confirmation bias in full right there. WAP was/is terrible.

>> Everything before the iPhone was qualitatively and quantitatively inferior, even if it happened to have a janky plastic touch screen.

>At least it wasn't the capacitive junk that all of them are now.

You are probably the only individual alive that is going to argue for resistive, probably because Apple...

>> They sure as hell weren't running slimmed down desktop operating systems with fully-featured frameworks.

>iOS is definitely not a desktop OS. Where are the files? Multi-user support? Terminal?

So the early versions of Windows/Mac OS/Amiga etc weren't desktop OS's? Now you are being ridiculous.

>> They ran whatever software your carrier deigned to offer at vastly inflated prices.

>As opposed to whatever software Apple deigns to offer at vastly inflated prices?

Really? Arguably, Apple sell software at a low price to attract users to it's hardware!

NullabillityOP10y ago

>>> Everything before the iPhone was qualitatively and quantitatively inferior, even if it happened to have a janky plastic touch screen.

>>At least it wasn't the capacitive junk that all of them are now.

>You are probably the only individual alive that is going to argue for resistive, probably because Apple...

Have you ever used a resistive screen? But of course, who would ever use a stylus to hit ridiculously small targets without having to zoom in...

>>> They sure as hell weren't running slimmed down desktop operating systems with fully-featured frameworks.

>>iOS is definitely not a desktop OS. Where are the files? Multi-user support? Terminal?

>So the early versions of Windows/Mac OS/Amiga etc weren't desktop OS's? Now you are being ridiculous.

Why does it matter that it's based on something that's ran on a desktop machine, if all the features that define modern desktop OSes are hidden/removed? Other than that it's just a form factor and a meaningless label.

>>> They ran whatever software your carrier deigned to offer at vastly inflated prices.

>>As opposed to whatever software Apple deigns to offer at vastly inflated prices?

>Really? Arguably, Apple sell software at a low price to attract users to it's hardware!

They sell an arbitrary pick of software at a ridiculous markup. But of course, that's great when Apple does it, and terrible when anyone else does!

sbuk10y ago

Yes I've owned Newtons, Palm Pilots/Handsprings, Treos and XDA/SPVs all at launch. All had resistive screens, all were universally awful. The stupid styluses were rubbish.

You are confusing what is merely a paradigm (in this case WIMP) with what you think is a modern OS. Tell me, why do I need file system access? Do I really need to manually file away thing in this day and age? Why can I see MP3 files when I'm trying to open JPGs? A phone is a personal device, why does it need multi-user access? Why does it need terminal access, a relic of the pre GUI era? Any counter argument that you come up with I can pretty much guarantee will be an edge case.

Are you referring to the 30%? Go to any other retailer and see if you get that deal. Approval is arbitrary? Perhaps, but it does keep the malware count down. You do know that Google do it to, right? So do Microsoft. Other than that, running your own content delivery and payment system isn't cheap, and neither is managing it, but hey, you keep clutching at those straw men...

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