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0 pointsjazzyk10y ago0 comments

There are more, but this is the best known instance, because Boeing lost a lot of money as a result.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-boeing-brazil-i...

"Snowden's documents, many of which were published by Brazil-based U.S. journalist Glenn Greenwald, revealed that Washington had spied on Rousseff's personal communications, those of state-run oil company Petrobras - which Rousseff once chaired - and countless Brazilian citizens".

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tedunangst10y ago· 2 in thread

And what information was provided to US companies? That's an article about a US company losing business, not an article about a US company benefiting from NSA provided secrets.

jazzykOP10y ago

Yes, about a company losing business, but also about surveillance of foreign business entities (Brazil in this case)

Also France (below), and yes, the information was shared:

From http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/29/new-wikileaks-documents-rev...

"According to an economic espionage order, the NSA intercepted all French corporate contracts and negotiations valued at more than $200 million in many different industries, such as telecommunications, electrical generation, gas, oil, nuclear and renewable energy, and environmental and healthcare technologies.

A second economic espionage order called “France: Economic Developments” shows that information was then shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury. Eventually, this data could have been used to help sign export deals."

tedunangst10y ago

> shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury.

None of those are US companies. This is like every Snowden thread ever. A specific claim was made: the NSA provides private companies with tips. A citation was requested. Instead of evidence for the claim that was made, we get this, that, and the other thing, but never the requested citation.

Look, if there's no evidence that the NSA provided a company with tips, then just say "Sorry, I misspoke. I conflated spying activity A with spying activity B."

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wil42110y ago· 1 in thread

There is nothing about the NSA giving information to Boeing.

You mean to say a spy agency spied on a foreign president, color me shocked. The article is about blowback from the Snowden leaks. Nothing about the government supplying private companies with information.

jazzykOP10y ago

Look further down the article. It talks about spying on Petrobras. There is other evidence of spying on French and German companies (see my other post in this thread).

I did misspeak on who the information was shared with. It was dissipated among several government agencies. I am not aware of any evidence about sharing it with private companies in the US.

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5 comments · 2 top-level

tedunangst10y ago· 2 in thread

And what information was provided to US companies? That's an article about a US company losing business, not an article about a US company benefiting from NSA provided secrets.

jazzykOP10y ago

Yes, about a company losing business, but also about surveillance of foreign business entities (Brazil in this case)

Also France (below), and yes, the information was shared:

From http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/29/new-wikileaks-documents-rev...

tedunangst10y ago

> shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury.

Look, if there's no evidence that the NSA provided a company with tips, then just say "Sorry, I misspoke. I conflated spying activity A with spying activity B."

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wil42110y ago· 1 in thread

There is nothing about the NSA giving information to Boeing.

jazzykOP10y ago

Look further down the article. It talks about spying on Petrobras. There is other evidence of spying on French and German companies (see my other post in this thread).

I did misspeak on who the information was shared with. It was dissipated among several government agencies. I am not aware of any evidence about sharing it with private companies in the US.

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