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0 pointsbriandear10y ago0 comments

Just because it doesn't work the way you want it to work doesn't mean it doesn't work. If it literally took 4 days to install the forum software in question, wouldn't it be fair to say that your situation is clearly an outlier? Is the 30 minute "simple" installation claim really just an 'ol bait and switch? Is it really taking everyone 4 days?

I'm sorry about your frustration -- I've been there many times, but taking your hellish experience and parlaying that into "web deployments suck these days because my development environment didn't meet the system requirements and therefore their methods suck" is a bit nonsensical.

I would direct you to the system requirements for the installation in question:

Hardware Requirements

Dual core CPU recommended 1 GB RAM minimum (with swap) 64 bit Linux compatible with Docker Software Requirements

Postgres 9.3+ Redis 2.6+ Ruby 2.0+ (we recommend 2.0.0-p353 or higher)

I would say that 32bit != 64 bit. Blaming the system seems like blaming a toaster that won't make tea. We could certainly hack the toaster into making tea, but your inability to quickly make tea with a toaster is not the fault of the toaster, toast or people that make toasters. Dismissing toast as a silly breakfast food and lamenting why more tea isn't made is pretty much the point of your rant.

You are certainly welcome to install the forum or do whatever it is you want, it is Open Source. However, it's rather uncouth to blame a process for which the problem was your situation. Rather than ranting about how badly Docker sucks, perhaps you could contribute back to the forum software in question and create your own Awesome Deployment System. Nothing is stopping you.

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eevee10y ago· 1 in thread

You lost me right around the point where you compared x86 vs x86_64 to a toaster and a teapot.

Nothing about Ruby forum software necessitates a 64-bit kernel. (Which I have, incidentally.) According to Docker, nothing about Docker necessitates a 64-bit kernel either! It's an entirely arbitrary requirement, inherited by the forum software for support reasons rather than technical reasons, and for some reason you are blaming me for not meeting it.

I certainly believe that people manage the 30 minute installation. I would've been much happier if I managed it as well.

And Web deployments must suck, or we wouldn't need Docker. Right? I mean, the whole appeal is that we can take all this arduous ad-hoc crap and just shove it in a box. Unfortunately, it's still arduous ad-hoc crap; we just don't have to look at it as often now.

justincormack10y ago

Docker largely doesnt support 64 bit as the docker hub doesnt yet, and even if it did there are no prebuilt images for 32 bit, so you would not be able to install any software. This is unlikely to change as no one is going to build 32 bit images for all software given that x86 32 bit is extremely rare (guessing under 1% of installs perhaps less)

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