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0 pointspwnstigator16y ago0 comments

I think it's similar to "Why Nerds are Unpopular".

In my parents' day, "finding a husband/wife" wasn't something most people had to make an active effort in order to do. It happened fairly naturally. So smart people paired off at a similar rate to everyone else.

In the post-"Game" world, wherein breaking through womens' defenses and attracting them requires learning a bag of cheap sales tricks, the big losers are the people who don't learn them. These are the dumb, who are unable, and the smart nerds, who can't be bothered because they find childish social games uninteresting.

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wallflower16y ago· 4 in thread

> In the post-"Game" world, wherein breaking through womens' defenses and attracting them requires learning a bag of cheap sales tricks

The entire industry of pick up technology is based on the premise that there may be a technique that can successfully attract a woman. Wheras, in real life, there is no magic technique - it's all about confidence and putting youself out there, taking a risk/taking the lead.

What the pickup artists are really marketing is protecting the guy's ego - e.g. I wasn't rejected - it was the approach/technique. Which, as we all know, is false marketing.

bd16y ago

"The entire industry of pick up technology is based on the premise that there may be a technique that can successfully attract a woman."

As far as I understood, the real point was not there is some magic bullet that can attract any particular woman a man desires.

Instead it was about finding some subset of female population upon which some of these tricks do work.

It's kind of refined Feynman's strategy - keep trying whatever shtick you have on different women till you find some on which it works.

That is why these people can report some successes - if just you want to attract some woman, it's much easier than wanting to attract that woman.

pwnstigatorOP16y ago

The entire industry of pick up technology is based on the premise that there may be a technique that can successfully attract a woman.

It's not that simple, just as there isn't one "magic trick" that can close a sale. It's a complex set of skills that has to be learned over years.

On the other hand, some guys are able to feast because they've mastered a bag of cheap tricks, and there are a lot more men dying to be like them.

wallflower16y ago

> It's a complex set of skills that has to be learned over years.

Yes, in my unscientific survey of reading about men posting about their experiences on various pickup forums - the fraction of those who really became good at "pick up" - basically became good not because of the technique but because they went out there with their icebreaker "I need a female opinion" and went from there and gained confidence and experience, to the point that eventually they were so desensitized of rejection (yet, aware) of interacting with women that really no women made them nervous (Bill Clinton was legendary for his ease around all women) - and this is what made them attractive. Snowball effect.

rwolf16y ago

I find your use of the terms "close a sale" and "feast" in this context disturbing.

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foldr16y ago

>breaking through womens' defenses

I think this metaphor may be your problem.

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