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0 pointsdropit_sphere10y ago0 comments

I don't think ad hominem is necessarily a bad thing in this case; we practice it as a society by not counting votes from 17-yr-olds based not on the merits of their ideas, but their persons.

And in this specific case: citizenship and residency ought to give one's voice more weight.

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54245810y ago· 1 in thread

For sure, but we're not counting votes, we discussing policy. In the case of discussion the goal is to hear many sides and opinions of the merits and drawbacks of an issue. Just like how in an election non-voting minors can still participate in debate, in a discussion of policy I think we should still hear the opinions of others.

dropit_sphereOP10y ago

But was it an opinion?

When members of a group discuss policy for that group, they do so under the implicit assumption that their values are similar enough that what they are doing in the conversation is trying to find a way to achieve their shared values.

But the great-great-great-grandparent comment was simply a statement of values, not a suggestion of how parties concerned could achieve theirs.

I realize the lines are fuzzy: HN is certainly not a 'murican forum for 'murican issues. But its composition is such that neither is it a non-American forum. As such, the greatx3-grandparent could have been more sensitive.

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